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Mills / Re: An Extraordinary Phenomenon
« Last Post by bertroid on Today at 01:31:02 AM »
Ermm... Yes it's not probably windmill related.  I haven't got the foggiest on early UFO's etc, but the drama portrayed possibly might fall into that category.  Be interesting if it was repeated elsewhere, or someone was having too much gin and having a laugh!
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Mills / An Extraordinary Phenomenon
« Last Post by Smiffy on Today at 12:59:09 AM »

Originally posted on the old forum under "Extreme Weather", we haven't an equivalent section but as it's related to a mill I thought it might fit in here.
 
Chatham, England. November 4th, 1867.
 
"On the afternoon of Monday the 4th, between the hours of three and four, I witnessed a very extraordinary sight in the heavens. I have not heard of any one hereabout having seen it. The facts are as follow: At the time above mentioned I was passing by the Mill by the Water-works Reservoir*. On the gallery I noticed the miller uttering exclamations of surprise, and looking earnestly towards the west. On inquiring what took his attention so much, he said, "Look, sir, I never saw such a sight in my life!" On turning in the direction towards which he was looking, the west**, I also was astounded - numberless black discs in groups and scattered were passing rapidly through the air. He said his attention was directed to them by his little girl, who called to him in the Mill, saying, "Look, father, here are a lot of balloons coming!" They continued for more than twenty minutes, the time I stayed. In passing in front of the sun they appeared like large cannon shot. Several groups passed over my head, disappearing suddenly, and leaving puffs of greyish brown vapour very much like smoke".
 
James E. Beveridge, Symons's Monthly Meteorological Magazine, 2:130, 1867.
 
*This description matches Star Mill on the Darland banks.
**In the general direction of Luton.
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General Discussion / Re: Guess the Place
« Last Post by CAT on November 13, 2019, 10:37:55 PM »
The photo is not in negative Diapason with the view being of the North side of the church as MartinR rightly deduced. It's not Teynham, but is a church in East Kent. The porch is actually concealing the North door, which is the main entrance despite it having a larger west door.
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General Discussion / Re: Guess the Place
« Last Post by MartinR on November 13, 2019, 09:24:43 PM »
Well the door with a porch is unlikely to be a priest's door into the chancel, so that implies the east end is to the left of the picture, the view must therefore be from the north.  I'm still no closer to identifying it though.
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General Discussion / Re: Guess the Place
« Last Post by MartinR on November 13, 2019, 09:24:25 PM »
Well the with a porch is unlikely to be a priest's door into the chancel, so that implies the east end is to the left of the picture, the view must therefore be from the north.  I'm still no closer to identifying it though.
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Harbours and Dockyards / Re: Blockships and Boom Defences in Dover Harbour
« Last Post by alkhamhills on November 13, 2019, 07:45:47 PM »
SS RFA War Sepoy
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Harbours and Dockyards / Re: Blockships and Boom Defences in Dover Harbour
« Last Post by alkhamhills on November 13, 2019, 07:37:44 PM »
SS Minnie Larrinaga
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Harbours and Dockyards / Blockships and Boom Defences in Dover Harbour
« Last Post by alkhamhills on November 13, 2019, 07:26:12 PM »

 During WW11, It was considered that Dover Harbour was in danger from German Submarines, using Harbour Entrance for firing torpedoes at shipping therein. It was decided to block the Harbour Western Entrance, using  two ships, the SS War Sepoy and Minnie Larrinaga  Disposal of the ships commenced 2.5.1950. They were taken to Dover Industries Scrapyard and broken up. The Western Entrance was finally cleared by July 1962 and re-opened 26.4.1964
  There were already two ships at the Western entrance, scuttled in pre WW1. The SS Spanish Prince and SS Livonian

SS(later RFA) WAR SEPOY, Tanker,
built by Wm.Gray,launched 5/12/1918,completed 6/2/1919 for Shipping Controller, managed by Anglo-Mexican Petroleum Co, London; 1921 transferred to Admiralty; 1936 Royal Fleet Auxiliary.
'War Sepoy' was damaged and burnt out during an air attack at Dover,19/7/1940.She was filled with concrete, towed into position within the western entrance and sunk as a blockship,7/9/1940.
 
SS Minnie Larrinaga, Tramp Steamer,(5049grt) built by Russell & Co, Glasgow , launched 30.6.1914. Owned by Miguel de Larrinaga Steamship Co. Whilst discharging Wheat at Surrey Commercial Docks, severely damaged and burnt out during an Air Raid 7.9.1940. Britain Hewitt was appointed to command HM Special Service Vessel MINNIE DE LARRINAGA. Loaded with ballast and topped with concrete, to stop the ballast moving, and dynamite she left Gravesend with two tugs forward and two tugs aft at 0945 hours, 1st February 1941. After the most harrowing 71 miles voyage imaginable Hewitt arrived in Dover at 0430 hours 5th February 1941, where the ship was taken over by the King's Harbour Master and placed in position ready for the Demolition Party to sink her at 0900 as a block ship in the harbour's western entrance by the side of  War Sepoy
 
SS Spanish Prince. Purchased by the Admiralty and scuttled in 1917 in the Western Entrance. 4 large gantries were welded to her decks and netting strung between them. The gantries have long since gone. The vessel was left in place, as it did not pose any difficulty to shipping. However with larger ships. It is now(August 2010) being finally raised

  SS Livonian. Built in 1881(4162 grt) and originally named Ludgate Hill until 1897. Belonging to the Allan Line, then Donaldson Line and purchased by the Admiralty in 1914, and sunk as a blockship, also in the Western Entrance. She was raised in 1932. Probably broken up by Dover Industries Ltd





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General Discussion / Re: Guess the Place
« Last Post by Diapason on November 13, 2019, 06:15:01 PM »

At first I thought the negative of this church had been printed with the wrong side down on the paper, but on second thoughts, now knowing that there had been some alteration, the only church that I can think of that bears some resemblance, is St. Mary, Teynham, viewed from the south, although I don`t think it is and am very interested where this church is.
 
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General Discussion / Re: Guess the Place
« Last Post by CAT on November 13, 2019, 09:56:49 AM »
It does still exist, but the pic I posted is an early one ahead of its restoration. Whilst the restoration was fairly severe, the church is still fairly recognisable.
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